- I could be wrong about my ex lawyer...still he remains SILENT and has NOT provided the affidavit I requested. I would hope he would answer the "question" about his (Kline Preston's connection to the CIA). OK... I'm rambling.***********************Also, I Told Mark Silverman the Name of Two Pilots in 2011. I Learned One of Them Did Gun Running for Charlie Wilson's War. Is the CIA's Michael Vickers Related to NISSAN's Cal Vickers? Then see if Kline and Stephen Preston are connected."...During the Reagan administration, Mr. Vickers funneled weapons to, among others, Gulbuddin Hekmatyar and Jalaluddin Haqqani, both now morphed into Afghan insurgent leaders who are fighting the United States.." New York Times HUH?
Google These Names Stephen Preston CIA, Kline Preston, Michael
Dec 20, 2012 – Google These Names Stephen Preston CIA, Kline Preston, Michael Vickers CIA, Cal Vickers NISSAN, Mark Silverman Gannett, Freddie ...A few years ago I was asked if I was connected to ISI - I had to google what ISI was.... HELLO I was NOT the high caliber intelligence person that my Mom was. I'm a HORRIBLE liar. I told people when I got back from Russia that I had appendicitis. Then a few years later I needed a "real" appendectomy... Oops. One of pilots "running guns" was dating my mom .... The pilot was connected to Iran Contra too. He fled the country due to "witch hunts".... WHY so people in DC subject pilots to witch hunts it's NOT nice. They're just doing what they're told.In the mid 80's at that time a close friend of Dean Lesher started having me over for holiday meals, Christmas, Easter, Thanksgiving. I was told to stay away from my Mom. It was sad.I believe that Sonny Bono was murdered and so was Margaret Lesher. BOTH know a LOT and BOTH has their own money and their silence could NOT be bought. Maybe we can get Cher to "speak up" and ask for the Lockerbie Truth. The fact is the people that wanted Sonny dead are "most likely" Lockerbie profiteers connected to Carlos Ghosn and Nicolas Sarkozy.A Man Behind the Hunt for Al Qaeda - NYTimes.com - www.nytimes.com/2011/09/04/world/04vickers.html?...allShareSep 3, 2011 – Michael G. Vickers, once a Green Beret and a C.I.A. operative, helped persuade a cautious Robert M. Gates, then the defense secretary, to go ...My grandfather in 1998 was diagnosed with early stage prostate cancer. He took Chemo and Radiation. The Dr. thought giving him the treatment was inhumane. The Lockerbie Trial was announced in spring 1998 then I relocated to the Netherlands and flew to California a couple to times. My grandfather died in fall 1998 & his final advice to me was SCREAM if I think something is wrong.
I'm SCREAMING!!!
AGAIN: All I know is that Iran is "most likely" responsible for the bombing. My Uncle chaired commissions for both Reagan and Bush and I was told by many that he's a VERY honorable person. Ask Mark Silverman he listened to a voice mail message from a man that knew my Uncle & mom form the Korea days. Did I mention that my mom and Uncle lived in Korea in the late 40's (this was when my grandfather was working on the 38th Parallel. I was told my grandfather was a Peace Treaty Negotiator in Korea).
Anyway - My Aunt wanted me to know about my ******** health. I told her I have not spoken to him in a few years. My fear is having him be abused by the people that have hurt me. I told her to tell him I love him. I also told my Aunt I'm NOT going to answer Kline Preston interrogatory questions that are inappropriate and I REFUSE to "out" anyone. I've offered to tell the Senate Intelligence committee EVERYTHING and I believe that my ex lawyer could be connected to those afflicted with the Russian Mafia. NOTHING else makes sense.
Lockerbie profiteers are connected to drug and gun running. I told my child Lockerbie Profiteers are PIRATES!!!
I liked Rudy Giuliani.
Nissan Whistleblower Inspired by Ed Gillespie, Rudy Giuliani - PRWeb
Apr 18, 2011 – Sharyn Bovat of Franklin Tennessee has faced months of court ...Bovat says that when working in 1993 during Rudy Giuliani's 1st mayor's race ...
I heard Rudy Giuliani's name mentioned in the movie, what role did he play in the Charlie Wilson real story?
It is likely no coincidence that the movie more than once mentions 2008 Republican Candidate Rudy Giuliani's fight, as part of a Justice Department investigation, to convict Congressman Charlie Wilson. Then a famed-prosecutor and U.S. Attorney from the Southern District of New York, Rudy Giuliani headed a 1986 ethical investigation into the Texas Congressman's supposed drug use in a Las Vegas hot tub, a conviction that could have jeopardized Wilson's ability to get weapons into the hands of the Afghans. Giuliani's ethical harassment of Charlie Wilson becomes a punch line in the movie. Contrarily, the movie casts Democrats like John Murtha in a positive light.The Soviet war in Afghanistan of the 1980s saw the enhancement of the covert action capabilities of the ISI by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). A special Afghan Section, the SS Directorate, was created under the command of Brigadier Mohammed Yousaf to oversee the coordination of the war. A number of officers from the ISI's Covert Action Division (Special Activities Division) received training in the United States and many covert action experts of the CIA were attached to the ISI to guide it in its operations against the Soviet troops by using the Afghan Mujahideen.
CIA – al-Qaeda controversy
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It has been claimed that the CIA had ties with Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda and its "Afghan Arab" fighters when it armed Jihadist groups against the Soviet Union during the Soviet war in Afghanistan.
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Allegations
In a 2004 BBC article entitled "Al-Qaeda's origins and links", the BBC wrote:
During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding. Some analysts believe Bin Laden himself had security training from the CIA.[1]
Robin Cook, Foreign Secretary in the UK from 1997–2001, and Leader of the House of Commons and Lord President of the Council from 2001–2003, believed the CIA had provided arms to the Arab Mujahideen, including Osama bin Laden, writing, "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan."[2]
In conversation with former British Defence Secretary Michael Portillo, two-
time Prime Minister of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto said Osama bin Laden was initially pro-American.[3] Prince Bandar bin Sultan of Saudi Arabia, has also stated that bin Laden once expressed appreciation for the United States' help in Afghanistan. On CNN's Larry King program he said:[4]
Bandar bin Sultan: This is ironic. In the mid-'80s, if you remember, we and the United - Saudi Arabia and the United States were supporting the Mujahideen to liberate Afghanistan from the Soviets. He [Osama bin Laden] came to thank me for my efforts to bring the Americans, our friends, to help us against the atheists, he said the communists. Isn't it ironic?
Larry King: How ironic. In other words, he came to thank you for helping bring America to help him.
Bandar bin Sultan: Right.
According to author David N. Gibbs "a considerable body of circumstantial evidence suggests ... direct Agency support for Bin Laden’s activities."[5] Both Bin Laden and the CIA "held accounts in the Bank for Credit and Commerce International (BCCI)."[5] "Bin Laden worked especially closely with Gulbuddin Hekmatyar"[6] who Gibbs calls "the CIA's favored Mujahiddin commander". Gibbs quotes Le Monde as saying bin Laden was "recruited by the CIA" in 1979,[5][7] Associated Press as saying a former bin Laden aide told them that in 1989 the U.S. shipped high-powered sniper rifles to a Mujahiddin faction that included bin Laden,[5][8] and Jane’s Intelligence Review as stating Bin Laden "worked in close association with U.S. agents" in raising money for the Mujahiddin from "vast family connections" near the Pakistan-Afghanistan border.[5][9]
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Opposing view
Peter Bergen
U.S. government officials and a number of other parties maintain that the U.S. supported only the indigenous Afghan mujahideen. They deny that the CIA or other American officials had contact with the Afghan Arabs (foreign mujahideen) or Bin Laden, let alone armed, trained, coached or indoctrinated them. Scholars and reporters have called the idea of CIA-backed Afghan Arabs (foreign mujahideen) "nonsense",[10] "sheer fantasy",[11] and "simply a folk myth."[12]
They argue that:
- with a quarter of a million local Afghans willing to fight there was no need to recruit foreigners unfamiliar with the local language, customs or lay of the land
- with several hundred million dollars a year in funding from non-American, Muslim sources, Arab Afghans themselves would have no need for American funds
- Americans could not train mujahideen because Pakistani officials would not allow more than a handful of U.S. agents to operate in Pakistan and none in Afghanistan;[13]
- the Afghan Arabs were militant Islamists, reflexively hostile to Westerners, and prone to threaten or attack Westerners even though they knew the Westerners were helping the mujahideen.
Al-Qaeda leader Ayman al-Zawahiri says much the same thing in his book Knights Under the Prophet's Banner.[14]
Bin Laden himself once said "the collapse of the Soviet Union ... goes to God and the mujahideen in Afghanistan ... the US had no mentionable role," but "collapse made the US more haughty and arrogant." [15]
According to CNN journalist Peter Bergen, known for conducting the first television interview with Osama bin Laden in 1997,
The story about bin Laden and the CIA — that the CIA funded bin Laden or trained bin Laden — is simply a folk myth. There's no evidence of this. In fact, there are very few things that bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri and the U.S. government agree on. They all agree that they didn't have a relationship in the 1980s. And they wouldn't have needed to. Bin Laden had his own money, he was anti-American and he was operating secretly and independently. The real story here is the CIA did not understand who Osama was until 1996, when they set up a unit to really start tracking him.[12]
Bergen quotes Pakistani Brigadier Mohammad Yousaf, who ran the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) Afghan operation between 1983 and 1987:
It was always galling to the Americans, and I can understand their point of view, that although they paid the piper they could not call the tune. The CIA supported the mujahideen by spending the taxpayers' money, billions of dollars of it over the years, on buying arms, ammunition, and equipment. It was their secret arms procurement branch that was kept busy. It was, however, a cardinal rule of Pakistan's policy that no Americans ever become involved with the distribution of funds or arms once they arrived in the country. No Americans ever trained or had direct contact with the mujahideen, and no American official ever went inside Afghanistan.[16]
Marc Sageman, a Foreign Service Officer who was based in Islamabad from 1987–1989, and worked closely with Afghanistan's Mujahideen, argues that no American money went to the foreign volunteers.
Sageman also says:[17]
Contemporaneous accounts of the war do not even mention [the Afghan Arabs]. Many were not serious about the war. ... Very few were involved in actual fighting. For most of the war, they were scattered among the Afghan groups associated with the four Afghan fundamentalist parties.
No U.S. official ever came in contact with the foreign volunteers. They simply traveled in different circles and never crossed U.S. radar screens. They had their own sources of money and their own contacts with the Pakistanis, official Saudis, and other Muslim supporters, and they made their own deals with the various Afghan resistance leaders."[18]
Vincent Cannistraro, who led the Reagan administration's Afghan Working Group from 1985 to 1987, puts it,
The CIA was very reluctant to be involved at all. They thought it would end up with them being blamed, like in Guatemala." So the Agency tried to avoid direct involvement in the war, ... the skittish CIA, Cannistraro estimates, had less than ten operatives acting as America's eyes and ears in the region. Milton Bearden, the Agency's chief field operative in the war effort, has insisted that "[T]he CIA had nothing to do with" bin Laden. Cannistraro says that when he coordinated Afghan policy from Washington, he never once heard bin Laden's name.[19]
Fox News reporter Richard Miniter wrote that in interviews with the two men who "oversaw the disbursement for all American funds to the anti-Soviet resistance, Bill Peikney - CIA station chief in Islamabad from 1984 to 1986 - and Milt Bearden - CIA station chief from 1986 to 1989 - he found,
Both flatly denied that any CIA funds ever went to bin Laden. They felt so strongly about this point that they agreed to go on the record, an unusual move by normally reticent intelligence officers. Mr. Peikney added in an e-mail to me: “I don’t even recall UBL [bin Laden] coming across my screen when I was there.[20]
Other reasons advanced for a lack of a CIA-Afghan Arab connection of "pivotal importance," (or even any connection at all), was that the Afghan Arabs themselves were not important in the war but were a "curious sideshow to the real fighting."[21]
One estimate of the number of combatants in the war is that 250,000 Afghans fought 125,000 Soviet troops, but only 2000 Arab Afghans fought "at any one time".[22]
According to Milton Bearden the CIA did not recruit Arabs because there were hundreds of thousands of Afghans all too willing to fight. The Arab Afghans were not only superfluous but "disruptive," angering local Afghans with their more-Muslim-than-thou attitude, according to Peter Jouvenal.[23] Veteran Afghan cameraman Peter Jouvenal quotes an Afghan mujahideen as saying "whenever we had a problem with one of them [foreign mujahideen], we just shot them. They thought they were kings."
Many who traveled in Afghanistan, including Olivier Roy[24] and Peter Jouvenal,[25] reported of the Arab Afghans' visceral hostility to Westerners in Afghanistan to aid Afghans or report on their plight. BBC reporter John Simpson tells the story of running into Osama bin Laden in 1989, and with neither knowing who the other was, bin Laden attempting to bribe Simpson's Afghan driver $500 — a large sum in a poor country — to kill the infidel Simpson. When the driver declined, Bin Laden retired to his "camp bed" and wept "in frustration." [26]
According to Steve Coll, author of "Ghost Wars", the primary contact for the CIA and ISI in Afghanistan was Ahmed Shah Massoud a poppy farmer and militia leader known as the "Lion of the Panjeer". During the Afghan Civil War which erupted once the Soviets had left, Massoud's army was routed by the Taliban (who were being helped by Pakistan's ISI) and restricted to the northern region of the country. A loose entente was formed with several other native tribal militias which became known as the Northern Alliance who operated in opposition to the Taliban. On September 10, 2001 a camera crew was granted access to Massoud under the premise they were interviewing him for a documentary about the Mujahadeen. The crew members were actually Al Qaeda operatives who detonated a bomb killing themselves and Massoud. The purpose of the assassination was to eliminate a key ally for the US in anticipation of an invasion in retaliation for the 9/11 attacks which were to take place the following day.
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